tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post3855436456301483483..comments2007-11-19T09:59:20.970-06:00Ted Danylukhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08416906043519452478noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-15079155332875414052007-11-19T09:59:00.000-06:002007-11-19T09:59:00.000-06:00

Sounds good!

Travishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08293454329758079937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-72126077996763439682007-11-18T19:21:00.000-06:002007-11-18T19:21:00.000-06:00

Will do! I'm a bit under the weather right now so it may be a few days before I get to it.Cheers!

Adamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08522250477305289784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-35201770812137056222007-11-18T15:16:00.000-06:002007-11-18T15:16:00.000-06:00

Thank you for all your great comments. This has been a fun conversation.This post could easily be a record of history, marking the cheapest batch prior to the Hop Crash of 2007! Here in Chi-town, about a month ago, my LHBS placed restrictions on the quantity of popular/diminishing hops (Cascade, Centennial, etc.). The prices were the same, but I wonder if they've stayed that way?Still, the type

Ted Danylukhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08416906043519452478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-90139369049486678672007-11-18T00:08:00.000-06:002007-11-18T00:08:00.000-06:00

Whoah! Well I Bryan and I have some Cascade plants that are doing well. My other plants are getting transplanted to better sunlight.Remember the first year's yield is pretty small. Even if you plant something next spring, don't expect much.Northern Brewer said something like this year's harvest hasn't come in yet and that is why they are short. Check out their hops page.

Adamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08522250477305289784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-1675695857154441052007-11-17T18:50:00.000-06:002007-11-17T18:50:00.000-06:00

Ted,I just got back from a trip to my LHBS and the hop shortage is happening and it's hitting homebrewers!I openend the fridge and it was almost empty. when I asked if he was waiting for a shopment to come in, he said he just got one. He ordered 800oz of hops and got like 100oz. Cost wise it's going to double our hops costs, but shortages are going to be where it really hits home.To top things

Travishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08293454329758079937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-64484987815624461772007-11-16T20:56:00.000-06:002007-11-16T20:56:00.000-06:00

Good conversation going on here :-)True Belgian styles are typically higher abv for me and wouldn't fall into this price range.Hmmm...am I getting 5 gallons. Not consistently. I just had to pick number and I thought 50 was conservative with sediment and trub. Don't get me wrong. I certainly appreciate the exercise you went through for the above average beer and doing so with three different

Adamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08522250477305289784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-2934240006245359872007-11-16T18:07:00.000-06:002007-11-16T18:07:00.000-06:00

Adam,When I think of a Belgian beer, I typically think of a stronger than average one...say around 6.5-11%. So an extract version would definitely cost more.It's true that there are a lot of variables and options when brewing in any method. I was trying to keep the comparison of 3 methods at that "above average" level. And keeping it at a modest gravity of 1.040.Are you getting 5 gallons in the

Ted Danylukhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08416906043519452478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-808893758709846802007-11-16T16:04:00.000-06:002007-11-16T16:04:00.000-06:00

Quick replies for now...No, I didn't include steeping grains. Your right. Gotta add that in there.I think you can make an average beer with just extract. Extract only Belgian style beer turns out pretty well due to the flavors that the yeast imparts. Of course the steeping grains really do take it to the next level.Not sure if $26 is really a good price point. There are so many factors to

Adamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08522250477305289784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-80054903185189303192007-11-16T14:56:00.000-06:002007-11-16T14:56:00.000-06:00

Thanks guys for your great feedback/info.I haven't brewed an extract batch in a very long time. So to make that calculation simple, I was using the Irish Red Ale Liquid Extract Kit from NB, and then adding the sales tax onto that. Travis,There seems to be a lot of choices (price ranges) for extract. If 2 cans are needed, and they run for $13, then the total cost would be close to $36!If a grain

Ted Danylukhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08416906043519452478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-31412414535316326032007-11-16T13:13:00.000-06:002007-11-16T13:13:00.000-06:00

Oh yeah...I used 50 bottles per 5 gallon batch as the divisor when figuring the price per six pack.

Adamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08522250477305289784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-17450105752221196742007-11-16T13:11:00.000-06:002007-11-16T13:11:00.000-06:00

Travis, I see your point. The bags and cans of extract can get expensive.Recently I've taken to buying bulk and/or house brand malt from places like Northern Brewer. They have traditional canned brands and house brands. The house brands range from the 3.15 lb package to the 33 lb bulk. If I use $10 as the cost for yeast, hops and caps as a constant and add in the cost of 5 lbs of LME, I get

Adamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08522250477305289784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3537147682557117770.post-47701412698583537072007-11-16T09:36:00.000-06:002007-11-16T09:36:00.000-06:00

Maybe it's my LHBS, but I would differ with you on the price you came up with for the extract brews. Cans of LME around me are ~$13 per can. Most recipes call for two cans. If you were using DME, the cost is pretty substantial as well. From my experience it's $15lbs and $4per additional pound. One thing I found interesting that we have talked about with our brew sessions is crushing our own

Travishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08293454329758079937noreply@blogger.com